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[ficwize]

I shamelessly stole these from harmoneyangel.

1. Name a character or pairing from a fandom I'm familiar with, and I'll give you a song lyric (or possibly a line of poetry) that I think fits. (I'm not really a poetry person.)



2. Name one or more characters from any of my fandoms, and I'll tell you every pairing I've ever written them in, read them in, or even just thought about.

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bwahahaha!

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1. Hank McCoy/Ororo Monroe [Xmen]

2. Hank McCoy/Bobby Drake [Xmen]

Re: bwahahaha!

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I'm going to have to think on song lyrics. I've spent the last hour searching... and not found anything yet. Hehehe, but I shall persevere!

As for writing, etc. I've never shipped either pairing personally. I think I haven't even read anything shipping Hank/Ororo, but I'm curious now. I think that they would be more like friends and lovers and less like a couple. What do you think?

The only Hank/Bobby-ish fic I've read is yours, when you wrote the AU so that Hank's grand announcement of being gay was actually true and he was in love with Bobby. That was awesome. *makes note to go and reread*

Personally, my favorite Beast pairing is Hank McCoy/Abigail Brand, thanks mostly to selenak's fics. And also, Joss Whedon, who made Brand one of my favorite characters ever.

Bobby... I really don't ship him with anyone, although I've written him and Rogue (movieverse) and have a not so secret desire to see Iceman/Spiderman...

I have always thought that Audioslave's Be Yourself is the perfect Bobby song, though. I can tell you that much definitively.

Re: bwahahaha!

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I think you can make a good argument for Hank and Ororo as old lover based on the third movie -- they were very comfortable with each other, in ways that were just *cute*.

Well, I've bookmarked a lot of Hank stories over at my delicious account -- some of them are slash, a few are het, many are gen. Knock yourself out.

Selenak makes me like Brand/Hank as a pairing, because she makes Brand interesting to me. I *don't* like the pairing in the actual comics, because neither of Whedon or Ellis managed to convince me that Hank would be interested in someone who is so ruthless.

I've never heard that song. I shall try to find it.

Re: bwahahaha!

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I think you can make a good argument for Hank and Ororo as old lover based on the third movie -- they were very comfortable with each other, in ways that were just *cute*.

You have made me contemplate this, and I think I can agree with this idea. Also, I know what to fic it. Too much to do, too little time. :(

I *don't* like the pairing in the actual comics, because neither of Whedon or Ellis managed to convince me that Hank would be interested in someone who is so ruthless.

I think that, in Whedon's run at least, Hank is still feeling the fall out of his own ruthlessness (under Nova's influence), so I actually can see why he'd be interested in her. And mainly, I think he'd be interested in her because she is interested in him. He's human (and male) and this seems like a pretty natural reaction. I would very much like to see more development between them - and maybe even an attempt at an actual somewhat functional relationship. :)

What Hank sees in Brand

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Also, ruthless is not all she is; Hank spends most of the "Unstoppable" arc trading one liners with her, so he knows she's witty, he's seen that she doesn't just use other people's lives but is more than willing to put her own on the line (I think that makes a big difference - I couldn't see him going for someone who is ruthless only in the sense of endangering others), she doesn't just talk the talk, she walks the walk; he's seen her bravery and endurance. And in their last conversation in Unstoppable, she tells him that they both lost people on this mission because she made mistakes, and she needs someone unafraid to argue with her so that doesn't happen again. So he knows she's not an ideologue always convinced that it's her way or nothing, or that she's always right, but someone willing to make a change (to a degree), someone willing to look at herself and admit wrongs, which is rare. (And makes her definitely not the thug he initially took her for.) Working with her in "Unstoppable", he's also seen her ability to speak in various (alien) languages he doesn't know, which I think he finds intriguing now that he doesn't suspect anymore this enabled her to set the prophecy up. (So much for the argument that Brand isn't intelligent enough to interest him, which I've seen in places.)

And lastly, absolutely, I think the fact she finds him attractive and unabashedly enjoys having sex with him is a draw. Especially given his last girlfriend broke up with him when the media accused her of bestiality and was ashamed of him.

Re: What Hank sees in Brand

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No, I don't think Brand is all ruthlessness. She's also wit and enigma and confidence. All of those things are attractive I think. :)

And you're right - she's not the sort of person to stay out of the way and if her death or anything else would save the world, I think she'd give it unaskingly. Hank may not agree with her all the time, but the fact that she's not hypocritical does make a huge difference.

And lastly, absolutely, I think the fact she finds him attractive and unabashedly enjoys having sex with him is a draw.

Naturally. Having someone find you attractive/interesting is a huge turn on and for Hank, who is so often rejected because of the physical (not just by girlfriends, but by everyone), I think that would make a HUGE difference. I just hope I don't make him sound shallow when I say that - seeking companionship is a fairly primal urge.

Especially given his last girlfriend broke up with him when the media accused her of bestiality and was ashamed of him.

That broke my heart for him. It really did. *hugs Hank*

Re: What Hank sees in Brand

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Naturally. Having someone find you attractive/interesting is a huge turn on and for Hank, who is so often rejected because of the physical (not just by girlfriends, but by everyone), I think that would make a HUGE difference. I just hope I don't make him sound shallow when I say that - seeking companionship is a fairly primal urge

Indeed, and no, it doesn't make him shallow. In Gifted, Joss gave him the serious temptation to go for the cure, and that great scene with Logan, and later the one with Scott. One of the things Hank said was "I had a mouth a woman could kiss once". That's not the only reason why the "cure" tempts him, but it's one of them, along with the idea of devolving entirely which Nova plays on. So meeting a woman who seeks him out not in spite, but because of who he is, blue fur as included as intelligence, really makes a difference, if she is someone with qualities he can appreciate (which we just demonstrated she is *g*).

And I think it was very clever of Joss to make her half alien, because that gives her a shared otherness; she knows what it is to be different from a "normal" human being not just in theory but in practice, and through more than lack of social skills.